Monday, December 16, 2013

Blog Post 26


Marc Ennis

Research project

Dr. Chandler

 

How are Traditional Moves in Stand-Up Comedy Adapted to fit a Different Medium?

 

Introduction

 

The  idea that humor is objective and what makes people laugh, or what makes something or somebody "funny," has been a debate almost as long as humor itself. But the fact is, there are people that have been successful with great careers who some would argue meet certain features that in fact, connect with and audience and elicits enjoyment.

In Jeannine Schwarz’s Dissertation on standup comedians, she focuses on established comedians Jerry Seinfeld and Stephen Write and what makes them funny. In the paper, she breaks it down by explaining the different moves made by standup comics. These include things like different techniques such as satire, ridicule, and what role the audience plays in the process.

While she makes many good points on the subject, she addresses the medium of comedians in a live act on a stage. I would like to see how a comedian uses the moves when he or she have the benefits from a taped show with the use of visual aids, other comedians to play off of, and the benefit of current events at their disposal.

Jon Stewart has successfully hosted “The Daily Show” on Comedy Central since 1999 as a hybrid talk show, parody of nightly news, relying heavily on political humor. Stewart himself being a former successful standup comic, uses all the moves that the two comedians do, but he is able to adapt them for not only making the people who are live in audience laugh, but also the people at home as well.

Most comedians who write for themselves on stage are usually hired to write for television such as “The Daily Show”, meaning that studying this question is important to show how such transitions can be achieved with success. This paper will examine how Jon Stewart adapts the conventions of standup comedy into a different medium and how it has made him successful.

 

Literature Review

In Linguistic Aspects of Verbal Humor in Stand-up Comedy, a dissertation by Jeannine Schwarz, she breaks down the history of standup comedy and the different ways it’s used. Where she focuses most of her data is when she talks about a certain language moves and inserts excerpts of comedian’s performances as examples.  For the sake of this paper, I have chosen out of the topics covered; Paralanguage, Ridicule, Hyperbole, and Satire.

 When she talks about Paralanguage she explains how it plays a central role in comedy in general, and how it represents a crucial characteristic in stand-up comedy. She sites nonverbal expressive movements, especially gestures that constitute an important element of the key of verbal humor and emphasizes those gestures are often “essential to convey the non-serious intent of the verbal message" and "can also be exaggerated more readily for visual impact". The revelation of "non-serious intent" by use of gestures can therefore reinforce the incongruity predominant in humor. She states that "gestures are important in humor that depends heavily on performance and acting" These statements reveal that the quality of the humorists' performance depends not only on the content of the jokes and the stories they reveal. It is far more than just the actual words which contribute to a successful performance, and she argues that intonation and body language are essential features of a successful performance (Schwarz from Rudder).

The example she uses to back this up is by describing Seinfeld’s character as an active, animated comic who imitates the gestures of the people involved in his stories.  She juxtaposes this by describing Write, as a monotone apathetic observer with no attempt at all to portray his characters in the way he observed them (Schwarz).

Ridicule and derision are another language move, and she explains them as features of the joke telling techniques that display impoliteness and aggressiveness. They are used to overtly reject another person's or group's identity. Speakers often use ridicule to make fun of someone else or even to insult or attack someone verbally. The ensuing laughter on the recipients' part stresses their agreement and therefore strengthens the intention of excluding a certain group. The author claims that this is a way for the speaker to show his superiority over a certain group (Schwarz from Wilson).

            To explain this, the author presents an excerpt of a Seinfeld performance connecting cab drivers and B.O. In order to be able to make his audience join him and share his attitude, he uses the strategy of presenting a situation everybody comprehends.

The Author describes Hyperbole as mainly serving to exaggerate familiar situations, to make the audience appreciate the joke telling, and to enhance its laughter. The stand-up comedian often starts relating a rather simple story and then makes it increasingly funny by telling of overstated situations and occurrences which always result in hearty laughter.

By using hyperbole, the stand-up comedians render the situation funnier because they claim more than they have evidence for and can objectively justify. In this context, overstatements should be semantically interpreted as claims that are higher (or lower) on some scale than warranted. Often the use of overstatements serves to top former punch lines in order to keep up and steadily increase the audience's laughter (Schwarz from Cuddon).

            The author goes on to present an example of the caricature as "one of the most fundamental techniques of humor, " and that the "caricaturist distorts by exaggerating features which he considers characteristic of his victim's appearance or personality" It is important to note that those caricatures can only be funny if the listener or the spectator knows the person ridiculed because "the unknown cannot be distorted or misrepresented" and can  emphasize that caricature  verbally, expressed through a change of on the part of the joke teller. By "capturing and grotesquely imitating his or her particular style of speaking or writing", the joke teller uses exaggeration into ridicule the person in question (Schwarz from Cuddon).

We can use caricature as a technique belonging to the superiority theory because, like ridicule and satire, it is used to express power and superiority over its inferior opponents. As the previous discussion has shown, caricature always contains exaggeration, which justifies treating it as a special case of hyperbole (Schwarz).

            On the move of satire, she presents theories that describe satire as a purpose of showing the absurdity of certain mannerisms, class privilege, professional pretensions, and institutional rules. They further note that "in face-to-face interactions poking fun at or ridiculing or putting down another person amounts to a refusal to accept the identity projected by the target and the meaning of the social situation that the identity implies." Satire can be considered a subcategory of ridicule and is thus a further humor technique that can be regularly found in stand-up comedy sessions (Schwarz from Koestler).

 

Methods

For my methods, I decided to look at the four points listed in my literature review, and find examples of comics using them on a stage in front of an audience with nothing else such as props, other comedians etc...  I then researched and found examples of Jon Stewart making the same moves on “The Daily Show” (TDS) and examined how he uses them differently.

Data

For this section I will break it down by each of the four moves separately.

A.Paralanguage

I examined for myself what makes Stephen Wright stage persona so distinguishable when he performs.


You can see in this performance that the way he takes on the role of schlep, or loveable loser which in turn, makes his punch lines funny. Some of the things he says are just random or normal observations on everyday life. So as you can see, his brand of humor totally depends on the way he says it, meaning his brand of humor is tied directly to his stage character.

When examining Jon Stewart's paralanguage we can see how he can change his character or persona to fit whatever jokes they might be focusing on that night or even in a certain segment.


Here, he goes from serious news anchor, sarcastic commentator, angry viewer incredulous observer, condescending wise guy, and imitating and mocking character, and back to serious news anchor. This is because Stewart, unlike Write, has the benefits of edited clips to play off, and as such, can change the direction of the humor as he sees fit.

B.Ridicule


I looked at the lit review’s view on ridicule and studied their example of Seinfeld’s bit on cab drivers and body odor. The author surmises, and I agree, that Seinfeld uses ridicule here to make a statement about cab drivers in general, not only certain cabs that he has been in, but all of them.

On the other hand, Stewart uses ridicule to call people out who he feels have mislead or deceive people. As TDS focuses on what’s in the news and current events, it is easier for him to direct ridicule as sort of a rebuttal to their views.


            In the clip above it is important to note that when Jon Stewart ridicules the people in the clips, he makes it a point to back it up with facts and figures.  He is not making assumptions about a single group, but shows you what these people think, and then shows you why he thinks they're wrong. He is still setting up a scenario where he is making himself and the audience feels superior, but with more context and specific target for the ridicule.

C.Hyperbole (Caricatures)

Standup comics often use hyperbole or caricatures to make a simple joke, or something that’s not even a joke, funnier. But as noted in the Lit review, it’s a fine line to take because you have to make sure the audience has a frame of reference for.


In the clip from “Americas Got Talent”, a comedian does impressions of many famous people with an air of over exaggeration. Though he gets laughs, he is walking the fine line of alienating his audience by quoting lines from the movies of some of the actors he is impersonating which many in the audience could not be familiar with, for example, Gary Busey. Buesy is one of the actors who the comedian imitates in the clip, and was most prominent during the eighties and early nineties, but has made less and less mainstream films by the time of the comic’s appearance. This could lead to less laughs or even confusion from a younger audience.

On TDS, Jon Stewart a system in place where before he does a caricature or an imitation, he can show the audience not only the person he is imitating, but a particular clip in which he can really exaggerate the finer points of.


As you can see in the clip, after we cut back to Jon Stewart, he immediately elicits laughs from the crowd without saying a word. By mimicking the appearance of the Senator by playing off the clip he just presented to the crowd, it allows him to be more free and is able to elevate the imitation., and do it more safely then he would if he was on a stage with no context for the audience to relate to. In many cases Stewart takes on public figures is more risky that the comedians, because most people are more aware of celebrities then politicians (Public Knowledge of…).

D.Satire

Satire has long been a way to use comedy to shame things like companies or individuals into improvement or to highlight how ridiculous something is like a certain subculture.


In this clip comedian George Carlin talks about “Dumb people” and he tells you why they are stupid. He cannot simply just say there dumb because he thinks so, he has to embarrass them by bringing forth the behavior to the audience. He talks about how people in America think its “just dandy” that they live between two shopping malls.

Out of all the things that John Stewart does on TDS that differs from the way a stand-up comedian would do this, in my opinion, this is the biggest difference.

For a stand-up to do successful satire they really have to work to get your point across to the audience on describing exactly why something is ridiculous and why you feel something’s deserving of the shaming.


In this clip, Stewart clearly thinks that CNN and other news programs are being ridiculous and or stupid; with the way they ask if news stories are a “good thing” or a “bad thing.” Unlike the George Carlin clip though, Stewart never tells you directly that these people are being absurd.   

In just under nine minutes, without much context, Jon Stewart is able to portray what he thinks about CNN’s choices by allowing his comments play of the clips he shows and vice-versa. In the first clip, Carlin has to constantly explain to the audience his feelings, while Stewart lets the subject he satirizing speak for themselves and thereby make them walk into a trap he has set for them.

While both take different approaches, they both achieve the same desired results of shaming certain groups, Carlin with America’s “stupid people”, and Stewart with cable news.

 

Conclusion

The way stand-up comedians use certain moves to achieve laughter can be broken down into certain categories like the ones listed above. But when a comedian moves to a different medium, they must find ways to adapt them and make them work in a way that fits. What makes John Stewart so successful is that he knows how to do this task seamlessly.

 

 

Work Cited

Public Knowledge of Current Affairs Little Changed by News and Information Revolutions. Pew

Research Center. 15 Apr. 2007. Web. 6 Dec. 2013

 

Schwarz, Jeannine. Linguistic Aspects of Verbal Humor in Stand-Up Comedy. Dissertation.

Saarland University, Saarbrücken, 25 Jan. 2010. Google Scholar. Web. 26 Sept. 2013.

 

 

 

 

 

Thursday, December 5, 2013

Blog Post 24

Methods
For my methods, I decided to look at the four points listed in my literature review, and find example of comics using them on a stage in front of an audience with nothing else such as props, other comedians etc.. Then, I researched and found examples of Jon Stewart making the same  moves on “The Daily Show” and examined how he uses them differently.

I want feedback on this section

Tuesday, December 3, 2013

Blog Post 23

C.Hyperbole (Caricatures)
Standup comics often use Hyperbole or caricatures to make a simple joke, or something thats not even a joke, funnier. But as noted in the Lit review, its a fine line to take because you have to make sure the audience has a frame of reference for.
In the clip from Americas Got Talent and impressionist does impressions of many famous people with an air of over exaggeration. Though he gets laughs he is walking the fine line of alienating his audience by quoting lines from the movies of some of the actors he is impersonating which many in the audience could not be familiar with.
On TDS, Jon Stewart has a system in place where before he does a caricature or an imitation, he can show the audience not only the person he is imitating, but a particular clip in which he can really exaggerate the finer points of.
As  you can see in the clip, after we cut back to Jon Stewart, he immediately elicits laughs from the crowd without saying a word. By mimicking the appearance of the Senator by playing off the clip he just presented to the crowd, it allows him to be more free and is able to elevate the imitation., and do it more safely then he would if he was on a stage with no context for the audience to relate to.

Tuesday, November 26, 2013

Blog Post 22

B.Ridicule
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XXpTfIgiV8I looked at the lit review’s view on ridicule and studied their example of Seinfeld’s bit on cab drivers and body odor. The author surmises, and I agree, that Seinfeld uses ridicule here to make a statement about cab drivers in general, not only certain cabs  that he has been in, but all of them.On the other hand, Stewart uses ridicule to call people out who he feels have mislead or deceive people. As TDS focuses on what's  in the news and current events,it is easier for him to direct ridicule as sort of a rebuttal to their views.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWuzezm1vL0        In the clip above it is important to note that when Jon Stewart ridicules the people in the clips, he makes it a point to back it up with facts and figures, another thing not found in most stand up comedy routines.C.Hyperbole

Tuesday, November 19, 2013

Blog Post 20

Introduction

The idea that humor is objective and what makes people laugh, or what makes something or somebody "funny," has been a debate almost as long as humor itself. But The fact is, there are people that have been successful with great careers who some would argue meet certain features that in fact connect with and audience and elicits enjoyment.
In Jeannine Schwarz Dissertation on stand up comedians, she focuses on established comedians Jerry Seinfeld and Stephen Write. In his paper he breaks it down by explaining the difference between stand up comedy with such things as regular joke telling, different techniques such as satire, ridicule, and what role the audience plays in the process.
While she makes many good points on the subject he addresses the medium of comedians in a live act on a stage., I would like to see how a comedian uses the moves when he has the benefits from a taped show with the use of visual aides, other comedians to play off of, and the benefit of current events at their disposal.
Jon Stewart has successfully hosted the Daily Show a satire news program/talk show comedy central since 1999. Stewart himself being a former successful stand up comic, uses all the moves that the two comedians do but he, but the is able to adapt them for not only making the people who are live in audience laugh, but also the people at home as well.
This paper will examine how he adapts the conventions of standup comedy into a different medium and how it has made him successful.

C.Hyperbole
Standup comics often use Hyperbole or caricatures to make a simple joke, or something thats not even a joke, funnier. But as noted in the Lit review, its a fine line to take because you have to make sure the audience has a frame of reference for.
In the clip from Americas Got Talent and impressionist does impressions of many famous people with an air of over exaggeration. Though he gets laughs he is walking the fine line  of alienating his audience by quoting lines from the movies of some of the actors he is impersonating which many in the audience could not be familiar with.
On TDS, Jon Stewart has a system in place where before he does a caricature or an imitation, he can show the audience not only the person he is imitating, but a particular clip in which he can really exaggerate the finer points of.

As  you can see in the clip, after we cut back to Jon Stewart, he immediately elicits laughs from the crowd without saying a word. By mimicking the appearance of the Senator by playing off the clip he just presented to the crowd, it allows him to be more free with Hyperbole, and do it more safely then he would if he was on a stage with no context for the audience to relate to.

Thursday, November 14, 2013

Blog Post 19

What I need to work on for the workshop is pouring through the pages of the dissertation and pull out only the relevant data to my project. I feel that's going to be the hardest thing to accomplish with this project because my literature has so much information to comb through, and I want to stay on topic. My plan for the workshop is to try to separate it into usable categories.

Tuesday, November 12, 2013

Blog Post 18

I would give my paper a B to a B+ as I feel my discussion and my evidence is strong, but my introduction and the actual question is weak because I didn't really understand how to present the question. I found that backing up my points was clearly presented in the paper because from the start I knew the point I wanted to make. The only thing I'm worried about is that Dr. Chandler will not understand my question and look at my evidence as not fitting the question.

Thursday, November 7, 2013

Blog Post 17

The  idea that humor is objective and what makes people laugh, or what makes something or sombody "funny" has been a debate almost as long as humor itself. Bu tthe fact is, there are people that have been successful with great carreres who some would argue meet certain featues that in fact connect with and audiance and illicits enjoyment.

In Mr.x's Disertation on stand up comedians he focuses on established comedians Jery Seinfeld and Stephen Write. he breaks it down by x x x x x and  folows why they think

While he makes  many good points on the subject he adresses the medium of comediands in a live act on a stage., I would like to see how a comedian uses the moves when he has the benefits from a taped show with the use of visual aides, other comedians to play off of, and current events at their disposal

John Stewart from The Daily Show has successfully transitioned from stand up to comedy show/talk show.

This paper will examine how he adapts the conventions of standup comedy into a fiffrent medijm and how it has made him sucessful.

Thursday, October 31, 2013

Blog Post 16

I found the interview to go well, in this instance, because Courtney and I both are well versed in and both enjoy Halloween. So it was easy to follow up her answers with more questions that pertained to Halloween. I realized that if its something I'm not really familiar with, it might be harder to get my subject to open up about the topic at hand. So I realize with this practice interview that if its a topic I am not familiar with, I'm going to do research to make sure I can follow the participants replies, and ask more informed follow-up question.

Tuesday, October 29, 2013

Blog Post 15

I will be studying comedy told in monologues focusing on the works of Jon Stewart. I will examine what makes him funny, what makes his audience laugh, what discourse he uses to garner laughs, and how much laughs certain things gets laughs from the audience.

I will study Jon Stewart as my main subject, and in a literature review I will read a paper on Jerry Seinfeld.

I will talk to fans of his and watch clips from the internet

I will collect information by studying clips of "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart" and will interview fans of his to see what makes them find him funny.

Thursday, October 24, 2013

Blog Post 14

1. What are some of the things you find funny?
2. What are some of the things you dont find funny?
3. Is there certain types of comedy you find funnier than others?
4. How many things that society considers funny (stand up, improv, sitcoms, sketch varity shows) that
you watch regularly?
5. Is the way its said as important as what is said?

I would show a couple of clips at this point.

6. Did you find those clips funny?
7. What made you laugh about these?
8. If you were to get into comedy, what type of comedy do you?

Tuesday, October 22, 2013

Blog Post 13

In the Transcript "Chat Room" the subject A speaks about her experience with using and getting to know the web in the early days when it was first becoming widely available. The matter off fact way of talking  and the  inclusion of humorous  stories shows that she doesn't consider a conversation on the early days of her internet experience a serious topic.

The story of her and her friend talking to a boy that turned out to be her bosses on is told in  a way of an embarrassing story you would tell among friends not to a researcher doing a interview.

Research question

If a subject is talking about something nostalgia or something they considered fun, does the language they use show that?

Wednesday, October 16, 2013

Blog Post 12

I can assume from the transcript,  that Ch is a researcher who is gathering information for an article, but is not looking for anything new, but wants to steer B into giving answers that Ch already has an idea of.

Ch that's literacy - you have the basic tools, the right basic set of assumptions for how to read, understand, interpret a program. And so what I'm looking for is the connection between all the gaming experience you have and your ability to do that with the applications - the academic applications
B well like a lot of games, in the beginning, there's menus. You don't just start playing. There's menus, you get to customize your decal your spray, clothes, 
laughing
It's not all playing the game it's a lot of process to prepare for it, there's like box, scripts, you practice it, and you're not playing with other people, you're just like fooling around.
Ch OK so all those things - same kinds of processes, same kinds of moves - so navigating menus is something you learned from games that can carry over - anything else?

You can see in this exchange Ch lays the framework for an answer with little room for B to stray away from the question, allowing Ch to pretty much control  the interview.

Not only is Ch forcing B into the direction they want, they reaffirm B's answers in their own words to help the subject along.

Research question I would ask is: Is it important to control the interview and keep your subject on point, or are you skewing results by forcing the answers on them.


Thursday, October 10, 2013

Blog Post 11


I am doing am doing a research project for my English writing class, that will study stand up comedy and comedians and what makes them "funny." Focusing on what they say, mannerism, interaction with the audience, and the amount of laughs they get. I will ask people who consider themselves fans of stand up comedy to ask them why they enjoy it.

It will be a question and answer interview with notes being taken, and the results will be added in the paper that will be read by faculty and staff of the Kean University English department, and select students in the writing program. Any interview can be stopped and information can be discarded at the participants request at any time during the study.

Wednesday, October 9, 2013

Blog Post 10

The patterns I noticed in the comments given in each paper started with  something positive to let the student know they were on the right track. As in 4-3  the comments start off with "you have a great start on this," or in 4-4  where the professor leads off with a compliment of  "You defiantly done  a lot of research here!" When it comes to critique I noticed that the Professor chose to  use a question asking system to let them know here they need work. In 4-1 the comments include the phrase "Do you cover all the related ideas for each point in the same section" which seems to suggest that they want the student to include points  that they have left out without coming right out and telling them that.

For a research question I would ask

"Are students drafts better served with professors telling them to specifically change or add something, or by the professors asking questions and letting students come to the conclusion on their own?"

Thursday, October 3, 2013

Blog Post 9

1. Identify your focus.  This is a general statement of what you are interested in

My focus is I want  to study comedy, particularly stand up comedy and notice what language and/or actions the comedian uses to interact with the audience and make them laugh.

 2. Identify your research question:  What in particular do you want to find out?  State your question in as specific terms as you can: the age/identity of your subjects, the location of your study, the particular activities/features you will focus on. 

I want t o find out what kind of language, tones of voice, use I will look at shows like the daily show of props affects the level of interaction of the audience.

Your research question is really a group of related questions, stated in specific terms, where you narrow in on what in particular you want to learn about in your study.

I really want to know what affects the audience more. The material or the way its presented.

 3. Who has studied this question and what do they say.  For this prompt - mention any article that you have read where researchers have explored answers to your question.  If you can't find any articles - tell me something about what you searched for and what you found (even if it wasn't right).

I have the dissertation Dr. Chandler sent me.

 4.What do I need to find out to answer this question?  This prompt is to help you clarify and deepen your research question.

I have to judge audience reactions, plus maybe do a few interviews from people who enjoy live comedy on a regular basis to gauge what there interest in it is.

 5.  What do I need to do to gather information that will answer my question?
 This prompt is to help you think about how to design your study.  Who will you work with?  Where?  what will you do together?

I will look at videos of live stand up, talk shows like the daily show or the tonight show, and I will read humor books written by comedians to see how the writing works without audience participation.

Blog Post 8

When students entered the program they were not sure what field to use their degree in, with most students given short answers and vauge responces. But the graduation survey showed that most of the graduating students were eventually able to determine where they wanted to use their field of study with specific careers being cited. As far as confidence in student writing, they are more confident in their abilities in their writing when they leave. For Example, they are able to write a 25 page paper, they are able to write a primary research paper, and they are more confident in using their writing in their future profession. Their knowledge of writing scholars also increased, Peter Elbow went from 33% to 100% in student recognition as shown in the two diffrent surveys. I think that the purpose of the program is for students to increase their knowledge on writing,  and to be more adept at writing, and this survey shows they get that out of the program.

Wednesday, September 25, 2013

Blog Post 7

In jotting, some patterns that we see include short sentences or single words to represent what people experienced. We also see some emotions being included in the jottings, how people were feeling and how the mood changed as the activity continued. Also, a pattern seen through the jottings is that a lot of people wrote observations rather than conversation. They told what clothing people were wearing or their initial visions. For headnotes, the writings were much longer and in paragraph form. Some of them included a beginning, middle and end, telling how the experience happened. We see more of an order in the headnotes and less of a list. In the “things I remember later” notes section, some patterns we see are paragraphs, there wasn’t much of a sequence in people’s writing, and people tended to remember things that were less specific about one another. There were a lot of general facts about the activity, rather than what people were wearing or where they were from. In the “observations” section of notes, a big pattern we see is that a lot of the notes were about how people were feeling and the atmosphere in the classroom. People were talking about the awkwardness in the classroom and how people eventually became more comfortable.
These patterns can suggest that the class had a difficult time processing the experience. This can be because it was unexpected and people were unsure about what to ask one another or how to participate in the activity. From people’s notes, it seems that majority of the class was initially uncomfortable. The patterns in the note taking tell us that the class really processed the experience better after the experience. It was easier to think back on the activity because it seemed that people had more to say in the “things I remember later” and “observations” section rather than the jottings section.
From these patterns, ethnographers might have some things to “be careful” about. It seems that the class remembered things very vaguely. Ethnographers might want to be aware of any prior knowledge needed to have better notes. Perhaps if the class had more time to think about the activity and come up with questions to ask one another, they might have remembered more or took more detailed notes. Ethnographers might also want to be careful about how much time they have and the idea of multitasking. From the notes, it seemed that a lot of people were taking notes as they were participating in the activity.

Monday, September 23, 2013

Blog Post 6

Jottings

Courtney - Blonde, special education major, favorite color purple

Emily - Hates football has two sisters ate a peanut butter sandwich for lunch

Deb - Hates being called Debbie favorite movie is Titanic

Kristina-  with a K, English writing major, Grandfather Devils fan

Head notes

Courtney - was right next  to me so I started with her, I observed she had blonde hair and took note, then I asked what her major was and I incorrectly asked if it was education in which she corrected saying it was special education I then asked what her favorite color was and she said purple.

Emily - was the next person I interview as I turned around and she was directly in back of me. She asked about my New Jersey Devils shirt and asked me if it was my favorite football team, I corrected her and said it was not football it was hockey, and she told me she hates all sports. I then started my interview asked if she had any siblings she said two sisters and ate a Peanut Butter sandwich for lunch.

Deb - when I came to Deb I asked her if she hated the nickname Debbie and she said "yes, I hate it" and then asked if she had said that previously I said no. I asked what her favorite movie was and she said Titanic.

Kristina- I asked Kristina her name and she made sure I spelled it with a K she also noticed my Devils Shirt and mentioned that her Grandfather was also a fan of theirs.


Things I remembered later

Courtney -  Has tattoos of birds on shoulder and I asked the significance of.

Emily - Told me her major was early childhood education.

Deb - I asked if she has ever been to Disney World - I don't remember what she said.

Kristina - Wears glasses.

Observations

I noticed that people in the class were cutting in on other peoples interviews and asking their own questions. People were also doing group interviews of three or fours. Many people were laughing as they thought some of the discussions were funny.

Wednesday, September 18, 2013

Blog Post 5

I think the data definitely backs the theory that smaller groups are more likely to be a discourse community than a larger group. This also agrees with my personal opinions as well. It is no coincidence that the lowest score is a big group and the highest was a small group

The lowest score for being a discourse community, was in fact all of Kean University. Now its true that people involved have shared goals but there are so may different ones. The students may all be there to get an education, but in what? The science students don't have the same objectives as history or English students. Plus not everyone goes there is a student, you also have to look at the professors who have there own goals as well as the administration, the campus police, the maintenance workers etc. The shared Lexus is similar, but  an English professor certainty cant go into a science class and talk to them the same way, witch also shows the different genres. That's why Kean University is more like many Discourse communities coming together instead on of its own.

On the other hand, something small like our English class is made up of one thing from each of Swale's descriptions. The same goals for every student (to pass) the same requirements of expected work, all studying the same genre, and all share the same ways of communication. So our English class is one of the may discourse communities that make up Kean.



Monday, September 16, 2013

Blog Post 4

1) A discourse community has a broadly agreed set of common public goals.
 
The shared goals aspect of a discourse community definitely applies to our class. The most common one, besides learning new things about writing, is that members  want pass the class and earn three credits. We also have to produce and present projects and assignments that apply to a particular curriculum. The need to understand and analyze class materials is also a goal of every member of the class.
 

 
 
 
3) A discourse community uses its participatory mechanisms primarily to provide information and feedback.

In our class English 3029  we have a discourse community because we use participatory mechanisms to provide information and feedback. We get feedback from our blogs. It gives us information daily regarding what we are learning in class. It also lets us see what other people in the class think about what we are learning. The syllabus used in the class also provides information and feedback. It lets us know the schedule for the entire semester, among other important things regarding the class.

4) A discourse community utilizes and hence possesses one or more genres in the communicative furtherance of its aims.

In our class English 3029 we utilize many different genres. Among these genres are different readings given to us by our professor. The Shaggy Dog Stories are a good example of stories given to us and discussed in class. Looking at and reviewing our classmates blogs is another way in which our community utilized genres. This furthers our learning process as a whole. In turn making us a discourse community.
 
5) In addition to owning genres, a discourse community has acquired some specific lexis:
Our class English 3029 is considered to be a discourse community. Many communities that are considered to be a discourse share common features, such as language. In every discourse community there is a particular set of vocabulary words that are used to communicate. Our class is a discourse community because we use words such as discourse, ethnography, lexis, and methodologies on a daily basis in order to communicate and understand one another. For someone who is not part of our discourse they would most likely not understand many of these terms.   
 
 
6) A discourse community has a threshold level of members with a suitable degree of relevant content and discourse expertise.
The reason why  this applies to our class, is that as with all school classes, there is  always rotating number of new members, with new members who are always learning new things  from more experienced members. So the class will always have new members in the form of  a new semester of students, relevant material in form of education tools like scholarly articles, and discourse expertise in the form of a professor teaching the class.

 
 
 
 

 

 

Thursday, September 12, 2013

Blog Post 3

Courtney Parker
Debra DelleDonne
Dina Rodrigues
Marc Ennis


The Shaggy dog stories are ones that can definitely keep its readers interested. Their bizarre beginnings pull a reader in until they reach the end where the joke is revealed and hopefully the reader understands it. After reading all the Shaggy dog stories my group and I discovered that all of the stories have very unique features in common. Together we began to list all the common features that we could find. One common feature we found were the different puns in each of the stories. We also determined that all of these puns would not be understood in another language. Say they were written in spanish or german, they would not come out the same and the reader would not find it funny. 
Furthermore another feature that is common between all the Shaggy Dog Stories are the conflicts that occur. The string faces the conflict of not being given a beer because he is a string, Robinson Crusoe falls deathly ill, a lawyer and his friend come across two bears in the wild, a panda escapes the zoo and opens fire in a restaurant, and lastly a florist’s business goes under due  to friars opening up their own flower shop. All of these stories as you can see have the common feature of having some sort of conflict. Another common feature of all the stories is the type of character within them. All of these characters are very flat, with one dimension. For example, the string is just a string, we don’t know anything about him or what he is. Just that he is in a bar and can’t get a beer. Same thing with the Panda. We don’t know how he escaped the zoo or why. He’s just a panda in a restaurant shooting people for no apparent reason. 
Additionally, what we noticed about the set of shaggy dog stories that we read were that all of the stories, had a premise not based in reality. We all know its not possible for a panda to walk into a restaurant and shoot people, just like we know its not possible for a string to order a beer at a bar. You also have to suspend your belief that god would be present as a glowing light, and that a bear would swallow someone whole. On the same issue of unrealistic events being portrayed in the readings there is always a realistic setting with the punchline rationalizing the meaning of the two conflicting scenarios. For example in the string story, we see something unrealistic like a  talking string but is set in a realistic setting like going into bar and ordering a beer, and that sets up the basis of the joke. Like most stories, the jokes here all have one or more characters having a conversation with each other. For the shaggy dog stories it seems to be imperative for progressing and setting up the basis of the story that there is some sort of dialog.
Another main feature we found within the shaggy dog stories was that each of the stories has a main character. Each story was focused on the journey of each character which was the focus of the joke. Although we did not learn much about the characters personal lives, we knew just enough about them to understand their emotions. Another feature that we found to reoccur within the stories was the central setting. Each story took place in a specific area that also added to the joke. The characters in each story all had a different setting, but all settings took place in a public area. For instance, the panda in the restaurant, the string in the bar and the friars in the flower shop. Each character was out in public dealing with their personal lives. We were also able to analyze that each story had an ending statement that wrapped up the meaning of the story. This is a very important aspect not only to jokes but to any story, the ending is where the story should make the most sense. The ending of the shaggy dog stories all share the same feature of the ending statement summing up the story.   
Also, within the Shaggy Dog Stories, the end of each story ended with a play on words, also known as a pun. For example, in the third story about the string who was repeatedly refused a drink, thus the string tied himself into a bow and unraveling the ends of himself [he’s a string]. The story ends with the string once again ordering his beer and the bartender asking him if he’s the string from before. To quote the story, “The string replied coolly, "Nope, I'm a frayed knot." Here, ”a frayed” sounds like “afraid” and “knot” sounds like “not”. The humor is that both interpretations are accurate to the situation in the story, not to mention that the entire story hinges on that particular pun as if the pun was the focus and the story was then built around it. Seeing as it is the last line and the punch line of the story, the reader is left to giggle on this play on words. 
The stories also contain characters with very specific needs and desires with are logical, at least within the context of the story. Those needs and desires are then achieved, even if they seem ridiculous. For example, in the story where the panda is ordering food, the Panda is actually given the food he orders. This is logically explained by the story in that the reader finds out the panda can speak like a normal human being. Also, because of the location, which is New York City, it is explained that the population there has see so many strange things that it would actually be illogical for a New Yorker to panic or to question the presence of a panda in a restaurant. Furthermore, after the panda has its shooting spree, the panda requests that someone look up the definition of a panda, and the other characters present heed that request. In essence, no request is too ridiculous for any character in a Shaggy Dog Story; the request may not be achieved in a conventional way, but it will be achieved.
Lastly, some of the stories have dark humor which is a variant feature. As a variant, dark humor and violence are often the main features of the stories. For example, in the story about the lawyer whose friend was eaten by a bear, the act of being eaten is very violent. Subsequently calling someone to shoot the bear is also very violent. Moreover, the punch line, which is a pun as well [see #4] has an element of dark humor [i.e. "Would you believe a lawyer who told you the Czech was in the male?"]. On the other hand, there are Shaggy Dog stories that do not contain violence or dark humor. In the story about the string who wanted a drink, the string did not resort to violence in order to get a drink nor was any violence commit onto the string. Furthermore, the punch line was an innocent play on words ["Nope, I'm a frayed knot."], making violence and dark humor possible variant to this kind of story/joke telling.

Monday, September 9, 2013

Blog Post 2

This post to me talks about analysis, and how it really is all about breaking it down into steps and building like a house. If you want  to build a house you do not put t he roof on the same time as you build the foundation, you have to do it separately to get the completed house. Much like when you do analysis, but in the case of analysis, you work backwards. If you have a problem you want to analyze, its best to break it down and rebuild it till you got an answer. It is best if you take your pieces, and then look how they fit together. Once you have all your pieces, you form a theory of how they make come together to get the desired final product.

I think analysis would be used in my research project on comedy as a way to see how a joke makes people laugh. You don't tell a joke with just a punch line, you have to have many things to make it funny. For a joke to be successful, it has to have a setup, a coherent story, characters, and a satisfying payoff relevant to the rest of the joke. By taking a joke and analyzing each of its parts, I could see how they work together to get the desired goal of a laugh.

Wednesday, September 4, 2013

Blog Post 1

I would be interested in writing about humor and comedy in general. I would like to examine what goes into the kind of writing that makes certain people laugh.